Three Cases of NSBR Fraud
Illustrating this organization's credibility and integrity
M.B. came to my house on Jan. 9, 2005 to take possession of two female Shiloh Shepherds that Linda co-owned with Lisa. Since they had been raised in a loving home, their "mom" wanted to be assured that they would have a private home where they could run free in the woods and play like they did during the two years that they lived with her! Both bitches were fully tested, ready for final ISSR breeding papers and about to come into heat.
It was the deal of the century. Instead of having to wait for pups to grow up and gamble that they would be able to pass all of their breeding requirements, she was being provided with instant satisfaction. She would even get a free stud service to both bitches; all she had to do to "pay" off her contract was to provide half of the first litter (minimum of three pups) back to Lisa/Tina Barber.
M.B. excitedly talked about her pups on our (paid for by Tina) forums and was flooded with calls from potential buyers. However, when it was time to bring the pups back to New Zion for their LER she chose "not" to show up. Instead, since she had already sold all of her pups, she chose to pursue getting litter papers from the NSBR.
I wonder who she names as the sire and how a "registry" could possibly register a litter without the stud owner's signature or even proof that particular breeding occurred.
She presently advertises those dogs on her website as being Genesis' Faith of Zion and Genesis Hope although their ISSR papers clearly state that they were registered as Zion Faith of Mystic Morn and Zion's Hope of Mystic Morn.
[Note that these documents were intentionally blurred to prevent further theft of TCCP/ISSR documentation.]
Maybe it's because she could not get "papers" for the real dogs (named above) because they did not belong to her as can clearly be seen by anyone that looks at the back (transfer part) of the registrations. Both Faith and Hope were signed over to her and Lisa Barber at the time she received physical possession of them. She understood that she would not be given full rights to them until the co-ownership contract was fulfilled.
Is this the way an honest "registry" operates? Just issues a "certificate" for dogs/puppies that have no legitimate documentation? You be the judge.
The third case is even more bizarre.
In early August 2003 C.B. came to visit New Zion and spotted a male puppy that Lisa was planning to keep.
Due to the busy schedule Lisa has to deal with prior to and during Homecoming, she agreed to let C.B. take the pup home for a few weeks to "show" train him for her. C.B. did bring him back for Homecoming and showed him for Lisa. Unfortunately he was winning all of the prizes and she was hooked.
That's when she asked Lisa if she could take him home again for a few weeks so she could show him at the next Canada show, at which time Lisa could have him back. Against her better judgment (Lisa did not like the idea), I chose to release him back to C.B., assuming that since he was micro chipped and fully ISSR registered it would be safe to trust her. [Note that this document was intentionally blurred to prevent further theft of TCCP/ISSR documentation.]
Fooled again! Shortly after she got back to Canada, C.B. informed us that she was not bringing Thunder to the show as planned, because her family was too "attached" to him. We were also informed that since she was in Canada that there was nothing we could do about it and that she could even change his name and apply for registration papers in another 'registry.'
Now he is listed on her site as being a NSBR registered dog named Keystone's Jasper Jax O'Zion even though she is still using all of Thunder's other information, like sire and dam, date of birth etc. She is even using our kennel name! Interesting?
How can a "registry" issue a certificate for any dog without proper proof of ownership?
Is this even the same dog? I realize that puppies can change a lot, but I have sincerely questioned this one from the pictures I have seen of what he supposedly looks like now? Who is he? Why is he registered as a Megan son? What kind of proof of ancestry/ownership (if any) was submitted to the NSBR?
After considering these three cases, I can only conclude that the NSBR just prints off papers that "match" what the person wants them to say.
What kind of monkey business is this?
Shiloh Wall of Shame
Illustrating this organization's credibility and integrity
M.B. came to my house on Jan. 9, 2005 to take possession of two female Shiloh Shepherds that Linda co-owned with Lisa. Since they had been raised in a loving home, their "mom" wanted to be assured that they would have a private home where they could run free in the woods and play like they did during the two years that they lived with her! Both bitches were fully tested, ready for final ISSR breeding papers and about to come into heat.
It was the deal of the century. Instead of having to wait for pups to grow up and gamble that they would be able to pass all of their breeding requirements, she was being provided with instant satisfaction. She would even get a free stud service to both bitches; all she had to do to "pay" off her contract was to provide half of the first litter (minimum of three pups) back to Lisa/Tina Barber.
M.B. excitedly talked about her pups on our (paid for by Tina) forums and was flooded with calls from potential buyers. However, when it was time to bring the pups back to New Zion for their LER she chose "not" to show up. Instead, since she had already sold all of her pups, she chose to pursue getting litter papers from the NSBR.
I wonder who she names as the sire and how a "registry" could possibly register a litter without the stud owner's signature or even proof that particular breeding occurred.
She presently advertises those dogs on her website as being Genesis' Faith of Zion and Genesis Hope although their ISSR papers clearly state that they were registered as Zion Faith of Mystic Morn and Zion's Hope of Mystic Morn.
[Note that these documents were intentionally blurred to prevent further theft of TCCP/ISSR documentation.]
Maybe it's because she could not get "papers" for the real dogs (named above) because they did not belong to her as can clearly be seen by anyone that looks at the back (transfer part) of the registrations. Both Faith and Hope were signed over to her and Lisa Barber at the time she received physical possession of them. She understood that she would not be given full rights to them until the co-ownership contract was fulfilled.
Is this the way an honest "registry" operates? Just issues a "certificate" for dogs/puppies that have no legitimate documentation? You be the judge.
The third case is even more bizarre.
In early August 2003 C.B. came to visit New Zion and spotted a male puppy that Lisa was planning to keep.
Due to the busy schedule Lisa has to deal with prior to and during Homecoming, she agreed to let C.B. take the pup home for a few weeks to "show" train him for her. C.B. did bring him back for Homecoming and showed him for Lisa. Unfortunately he was winning all of the prizes and she was hooked.
That's when she asked Lisa if she could take him home again for a few weeks so she could show him at the next Canada show, at which time Lisa could have him back. Against her better judgment (Lisa did not like the idea), I chose to release him back to C.B., assuming that since he was micro chipped and fully ISSR registered it would be safe to trust her. [Note that this document was intentionally blurred to prevent further theft of TCCP/ISSR documentation.]
Fooled again! Shortly after she got back to Canada, C.B. informed us that she was not bringing Thunder to the show as planned, because her family was too "attached" to him. We were also informed that since she was in Canada that there was nothing we could do about it and that she could even change his name and apply for registration papers in another 'registry.'
Now he is listed on her site as being a NSBR registered dog named Keystone's Jasper Jax O'Zion even though she is still using all of Thunder's other information, like sire and dam, date of birth etc. She is even using our kennel name! Interesting?
How can a "registry" issue a certificate for any dog without proper proof of ownership?
Is this even the same dog? I realize that puppies can change a lot, but I have sincerely questioned this one from the pictures I have seen of what he supposedly looks like now? Who is he? Why is he registered as a Megan son? What kind of proof of ancestry/ownership (if any) was submitted to the NSBR?
After considering these three cases, I can only conclude that the NSBR just prints off papers that "match" what the person wants them to say.
What kind of monkey business is this?
Shiloh Wall of Shame
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